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(08-17-2010 08:52 AM)William Wrote: [ -> ]Lynne, shall we tell MrsHayseed about Oscar Wilde and the rules of modern boxing? It grieves me for anyone to think of that man as a decent character.....

Don't know about MrsH, but I would enjoy learning about it.

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I've read some "Jeeves" stories and enjoyed them.

Reading the name 'Georgette Heyer' made me think of Norah Lofts for some reason.

I've read Norah Lofts' works, and I have enjoyed them tremendously. She writes stories about people, set in history, with something like an 'inn' to anchor all the stories (as in "The Wayside Tavern").


Quote:Norah Lofts, née Norah Robinson, (27 August 1904-10 September 1983) was a 20th century best-selling British author. She wrote over fifty books specialising in historical fiction, but she also wrote non-fiction and short stories. Many of her novels, including her Suffolk Trilogy, follow the history of a specific house and the residents that lived in it.

I also 'love' Marion Chesney's series, but they're more historical romance than historical. I'd recommend "The Six Sisters", "A House for the Seasons" and "School for Manners" series. Each series has six books, and they're fun to read.

Not everything you read has to be heavy and serious.
(08-17-2010 09:07 AM)Gary Wrote: [ -> ]Don't know about MrsH, but I would enjoy learning about it.

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Okey dokey.

Oscar Wilde was a notorious Sodomite, at a time when sodomy was not considered a healthy life-style. He was flamboyant and "out" about it; he was like the Elton John of his time. Like most Sodomites, he had a fondness for younger men. Not pedophile stuff: just young, virile men.

He seduced a teenager named Alfred "Boisie" Douglas. This was a mistake. "Boisie's" father was Lord John Sholto Douglas, the 9th Marquess of Queensberry (1844 - 1900). The Marquess was not pleased, and launched a public exposure of Wilde, whom he accurately described as a "Sodomite." (There was a time when people used correct terminology.) Wilde, outraged, sued the Marquess for libel. This was another mistake: because, as any lawyer knows, a statement cannot be considered libelous if it is true.

Because of his many "affairs," Wilde was sentenced to two years hard labor in prison. Generations of schoolchildren have read his "Ballad of Reading Gaol" without knowing that he was in gaol (jail) for Sodomy.

Subsequently, "Boisie" went straight, and publicly condemned homosexuality and Oscar Wilde in particular. He married, and stayed married.

His father, the Marquess of Queensberry, a great sportsman, commissioned John Graham Chambers to draw up a new set of rules for boxing, to replace the old, brutal, bareknuckle "London Rules." The rules became popular and are in effect today: they are known, obviously, as the Queensberry Rules.

It is because of the Marquess of Queensberry that boxers now use gloves, have three-minute rounds, are not allowed to foul, and various other things. Every professional boxing match you see on television is conducted according to the Queenberry Rules.
Bigamy is having one wife too many.Monogamy is the same.

All women become their mothers.That is their tragedy.No man does.That's his.

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

Oscar Wilde

I suppose Oscar Wilde met many gentlemen in his day.
(08-17-2010 02:16 PM)MrsHayseed Wrote: [ -> ]Bigamy is having one wife too many.Monogamy is the same.

All women become their mothers.That is their tragedy.No man does.That's his.

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

Oscar Wilde

I suppose Oscar Wilde met many gentlemen in his day.

Just as many as he possibly could, I imagine.

Sick2
MrsH, The Corinthian isn't available in audio, at least at audible.com. It's on tape, but I don't know if I could even find my old Walkman. Are you familiar with any of these, which they do have by Miss Heyer?

The Toll-Gate
Frederica
Bath Tangle
The Reluctant Widow
The Unknown Ajax
These Old Shades
A Civil Contract
Sprig Muslin
Lady of Quality
The Quiet Gentleman
Behold, Here's Poison
April Lady
Devil's Cub
The Unfinished Clue
Friday's Child
Cotillion
Black Sheep
The Nonesuch
An Infamous Army
Powder and Patch
Beauvalet
Royal Escape
(08-17-2010 03:58 PM)William Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-17-2010 02:16 PM)MrsHayseed Wrote: [ -> ]Bigamy is having one wife too many.Monogamy is the same.

All women become their mothers.That is their tragedy.No man does.That's his.

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

Oscar Wilde

I suppose Oscar Wilde met many gentlemen in his day.

Just as many as he possibly could, I imagine.

Sick2
How old was "Boisie" when he got seduced? Old enough to know better perhaps and good for him that he got straight and married and stayed married and publically condemned Oscar Wilde and homosexuality...but then male prostitutes say 75% of their clients are married men who do not want their wives or anyone to know about their secret life.
I guess "Boisie" would openly condemn Oscar Wilde and all homosexuals to avoid ridicule,and two years hard labour in prison and his father's anger.

Iam not so very interested in Oscar Wilde's homosexuality Iam his wit and wonderful stories.
MrsH, did you miss my Georgette Heyer list in #499? Three Men in a Boat is going fast and I wanted to try her next. Thanks!
(08-17-2010 06:58 PM)Lynne Wrote: [ -> ]MrsH, did you miss my Georgette Heyer list in #499? Three Men in a Boat is going fast and I wanted to try her next. Thanks!
Sorry Lynne I only read that one Georgette Heyer but maybe others have enjoyed some in the list they can reccommend as favourites.

I'm afraid once I became a christian at a late age (43 or so) I just spent my reading time on the Bible and books about the Bible as I had alot of catching up to do.
(08-17-2010 07:10 PM)William Wrote: [ -> ]Enjoy Wilde's wit. I'll enjoy Fitzgerald's insight and pathos. But let's not justify their sins on the basis of their talents.
Dear William,sweet William I never mentioned anyone's sins or decided to inform others of any author's sins... I reccommended Oscar Wilde's "The Importance Of Being Earnest."

Now I have just had my eyebrows plucked so I need a cup of tea and a cucumber sandwich and I shall be more careful in future about who is safe to reccommend.
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