Several weeks ago I received a letter addressed the "First BC Members" from a woman in Plano, Texas. It was very poorly written, slovenly organized, with no cohesion. However, it basically postulated that water baptism is the mark of the Beast and that we would be damned to Hell if we did not repent of being baptized in water.
I replied to her letter by telling her that she was in violation of scripture for attempting to teach men, that the men of our church would not be taught by her, nor would we allow her to usurp our authority by allowing her to teach our women. I concluded that she was a false teacher and that her doctrine was just as false.
I am interested to see if she will reply.
The 7th dayers claim that Sunday is the mark of the beast. And yes use Dan to prove it with the math. These poor people are in need and the cult has indoctrinated them so they go around with a smug look ---- hey I know and you people are wrong and going to Hell because you don't believe like us.
Anyone that are not familiar with the Millerites are in treat for an interesting read if nothing else. The Assembly of God, Church of God and Pentecostal movement basically came from the 7th day Adventist. David Koresh of Waco was a branch of 7th day Adventist.
It don't take much to leaven the whole.
The CoC of birth in WV, USA w/Ben Franklin one of their greatest or best known members. But, Ben was also a member of the Hell Fire Club and Master Mason.
There are enough nuts for all to share................. probably won't run out anytime soon either. Look at Oprah and Obama and the whole new agerer concept. Everything is OK for some and there are ways that are right for that person and each has their own personal concept with is a holy venue that makes them right if their heart is pure and their thoughts holy........ Yeap; plenty to go around. These nuts have followings and raking in money hand over fist. Seemingly they are uniting everything into one as all are OK so why not umbrella under _______________. I think also the fool has said, I am my own god.
This particular fallacy is hyper-dispensational (Berean Church) nonsense. However, previously I've only heard the water baptism as being called a false doctrine. This is the first time that I've heard it being equated to taking the mark of the beast.
Anything to put you on the defensive. Satan ain't dumb.
Miller became a pretty good scholar but rejected by Baptist; so, out on his own. He garther a large following. A pecular time in American history. Prior to civil war but rumors and unrest to couple that with the super unrest from the Indians that came about in 1840. Now to salt the wound - hoof and mouth break-out in Kansas and causing much unrest with blacks as they were thrust in conflict as business dwindled (remember the civil war was not fought over slavery nor were all blacks slaves). Miller hit the scene just about right as people wanted 'good' or righteousness and peace for their families. Look what we can do never works! Miller peaked when his prediction of Jesus' return missed - twice. And all kinds of hoopla and then civil war and afterward people wanting to construct a family environment. Amazing how many paths of religion sprang into being after the civil war. Spiritualism became really big especially with Lincoln. Then we came to the 1880 period and Westcott and Hort - good timing ---- Satan is extremely smart.
Also remember the CAtholics were moving quickly to re-invent themselves and distract from antichirst and invent "The Anti-Christ" as there is only one and it is at the end time. This distracts from them and diverts attention elsewhere. This could be a very long post but, I won't bore everyone to death.
Sometimes it is hard to focus on winning the lost with all the issures abounding. It appears at times if we get pulled into them and debate them our audience gets lost somewhere and only see discord and arguing and maybe something that they think Christianity doesn't represent. Or, I could be wrong on some of how I see things. Regardless; it's an honest view.
Problem is, water baptism doesn't leave a mark on you! :idea2:
(11-19-2010 02:45 AM)Kiwi Wrote: [ -> ]Problem is, water baptism doesn't leave a mark on you! :idea2:
That depends, I've seen some water that would leave a mark!
Interesting thought: Dr. Ruckman teaches, or at least theorizes, that those with leprosy in the Tribulation can have it removed by being baptized.
When I drove OTR truck I remember seeing the "Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast" signs in North Carolina and I think West Virginia too, if I remember right. They were Seventh Day Adventist ads. So, it appears now that we have two marks of the beast. One for baptism and one for Sunday worship. Maybe they cancel each other out.
Some will say the Jesuit order of Cahtolics were formed to deter attention from the antichrist. They started a Futurist and some also say they invented the Pretorist.
Pretoist view Nero as the Beast (he was called the beast) and the number of his name as 666 and whereas he did require script to buy or sell and cause tribulation made him out to be the beast and/or antichirst thus distracting from the Papacy. Also with Futurist - if the teaching that "The Antichrist" is at some future time then the Papacy can't be the antichrist. These serve to distract from the Papacy.
The 7th day bunch (if I can get it right): Papa 538 + 1260 = 1798 or when the Pope was taken by Napolean and in the 2 yr exile died and then Mouslini re-establish his throne in 1929 thus accounting for the Dan prophesy. From which the 538 pope decreed that Sunday is the Sabbath.
Christians are not to esteem one day above the next. All made by God; all Holy. Are we to observe Saturday - yes. Sunday - yes. Monday - yes and TUE and WED and THURS and FRI. All are holy and we are to worship everyday.
The Early Church observed Sunday (the first day of the week) as the Lord's day as He arose on that day. And mid-week as the day of rememberance of the day (WED) He gave His life willingly for our salvation whereby we could be saved and we meet in pray and to be thankful.
So this bunch claims that the Sabbath (Saturday) is the day of worship. They are works religion groups that do err.
(11-20-2010 09:31 AM)Samuel Pickens Wrote: [ -> ]Christians are not to esteem one day above the next. All made by God; all Holy. Are we to observe Saturday - yes. Sunday - yes. Monday - yes and TUE and WED and THURS and FRI. All are holy and we are to worship everyday.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
I agree; however, doesn't that verse give us liberty to choose days of worship?
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made Heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
God has chosen the sabbath (Fri evening through to Sat evening) as The Lord's Day; it identifies Him as the God who created in six days. That separates Him in a unique way from all other gods.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
If we use Rom 14:5 then the Lord's day could be any day.
If we use Exo 20:11 then it would have to be between Fri evening and Sat evening.
Plausible???