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(08-16-2010 05:53 PM)Melissa Schworer Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-16-2010 05:38 PM)Daniel Wrote: [ -> ]Very interesting, the reading list referenced is also interesting, although I would add a few books to that list.

I do agree with much that was said, to a point. However, I believe that the scope and magnitude of the problem is to great for all of the people involved to have consciously, and in accord, been in collusion. This battle is spiritual and cannot be fought in the physical. The true enemy is working behind the scenes, orchestrating the players. We cannot take back America physically. If it is to be taken back, it must be done spiritually. Yet I lack any confidence in the spiritual fortitude of America's churches, I don't believe that most churches could pray their way out of a wet paper sack, much less confront the spiritual wickedness that keeps their community in bondage.

I'm just saying...

I wish there was a "like" option on a post. 'Cause I like this one a lot.

I feel the same way about prayer in churches. Our church actually does pray, but I wish that people prayed more in their own personal devotions and prayed with conviction and faith. It is in that that my dismay lies. "I lack any confidence in the spiritual fortitude" of most Christians in America.

I liked that one too, sister. We don't have a "like" option, but you can always say

Amen
I looked this up this morning, I thought you guys might want to see it:

Taken from http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Communist Goals (1963)
Documention below

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Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.


5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."


31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.


42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Thank you, brother. By the way, my father gave me a copy of The Naked Communist, by W. Cleon Skousen, when I was 13 years old. It was a really formative book in my development.

The goals have been achieved, of course. But the joke was partly on the Soviets: they didn't win. When Nixon and Reagan stepped up to the plate, the Communists lost.

But so did we; because, by that time, the goals had been effected.

But in the broader scheme of things, the Marxists, like today's Muslims, were just stooges of the Enemy. This is what the "bring America back to God" people can't understand. Whether it was Marxists, liberals, Muslims, or the Flat Earth Society, somebody had to reduce America to the status of a third-rate power, so that America couldn't stand against the Antichrist when crunch time rolls around. America will never be the mightiest nation on earth again, in the sense that we used to be: it's not consistent with prophecy. The current wave of internationalism, which started with Woodrow Wilson and flowered under George H. W. Bush, is the wave of the future. The European Union, the coming North American Union, etc. are all means to an end: the Antichrist's one-world rule.

Oh, there will still be nations, just as there are still states and provinces in America and Canada: but the nations will be subject to the global union, just as the states and provinces are subject to the feds. That's the way it's gonna be, whether patriotic people like it or not. And I don't; I fought the conservative battles from my teenage years, in the sixties. I was a conservative and a patriot when those things were definitely uncool.

I'm not saying we should give up, on moral issues or anything like that: but neither should we attempt the "restoration of America to Christianity," which is essentially a charismatic/Calvinist goal. It's called Theonomy or "Dominion Theology," and it's just as futile and as unBiblical as it can be. Our imperative is the same as it's always been: evangelism. Getting as many people saved as we can.

Anyway, thanks for another interesting post.
I just hope the bottom doesn't really fall out until after the rapture.

God have mercy on us all.

"We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars, and it's been said if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening."

"If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth."


- Reagan
From an article on the CFR.
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History
Few have done more to expose this revolutionary agenda than Carrol Quigley, the history professor at the Foreign Service Schools of Georgetown University whom Clinton honored in his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention, July 16, 1992. [See Quigley's credentials] In his 1300-page tome, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, he wrote:

"The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." Quigley, 1247-1248

In other words, elected officials come and go, but the unelected leaders behind the scenes continue their reign.

Summarizing a key point in Tragedy and Hope, Dr. Stanley Monteith wrote in his well researched book, Brotherhood of Darkness: "Professor Quigley assured his readers that the threat of communism was exaggerated, and that he had researched the men and the organizations that rule the world. In those days many people believed that our State Department had turned Eastern Europe and China over to the communist because our government was dominated by subversive agents." Professor Quigley clarified that confusion:

"This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent in the way the radical Right believes the Communist act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records." Quigley, 950

"One of Professor Quigley's most shocking revelations," wrote Dr. Monteith, "was the fact that the American Communist Party was partly financed by J. P. Morgan and Company.... J. P. Morgan and his associates financed the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, conservative groups, liberal organizations, communist groups and anti-communist organizations. Thus we should not be surprised to learn that someone purchased Professor Quigley's publisher and destroyed the plates to the first half of his book so it couldn't be reprinted."[1, page 99-100]

The CFR would become the U.S. equivalent to the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in Great Britain. Professor Quigley explains:

"At the end of the war of 1914, it became clear that the organization of this system had to be greatly extended... the tasks was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing local Round Table Group. This front organization called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company.... In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations were drawn up at Paris." Quigley, 951-952.

Banks and tax-exempt foundations were essential to this global vision:

"The powers of financial capitalism has another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole....
"The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Bale, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank... sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards...." Quigley, 324
"In 1924, the chairman of the board of the Midland Bank said, "...banks can and do create money... And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Government and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people." Quigley, 325

"During the early decades of the 20th century," explained Dr. Monteith, "the three largest banks in the US were owned by the Rockefellers, the Morgan's, and the Mellon's." Contrary to popular speculations, the powerful European central banks preceded the House of Rothschild. Jewish banks "never controlled the financial institutions of the world." [1, page 35] Quigley, 50-62

There you have a glimpse into the hidden Anglo-American power structure and its European branches. To see how all the pieces fit together, we suggest you read Brotherhood of Darkness [800-544-8927] by Dr. Stan Monteith. Many of the quotes below are taken (with permission) from his book.
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/cfr.htm
Curtis and his wonderful family are friends of ours and they go to our church. They just won a huge award for this movie, I think you'll find his acceptence speech very moving, as Melissa and I did.

http://vimeo.com/16402545

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Samuel Pickens

Grinding down America: I do not like USA government equated to American or Americans personally. This is not a government for the people; died in 1789. English and government - everything you say can and WILL be used against you.

We created the 'cold' war through the Nazi's. CIA was only ex-Nazi's created shortly after WWII.

Review that slide Clyde: Confederacy existed from 1776 to 1788. It was killed by the Hoi Polye for their own agenda. Feed-up people wanted the founding fathers government back in 1861; ergo civil war. Corparate America began in 1865. Dictorial American 2005; yes - congress voted on it.

Imperialism began 1898. WWI with its agenda, remove gold standard and on to WWII. At the end of WWII we formed the CIA with x-Nazi's exclusively - there was not one American as a member of that group. All Nazi war criminals and generals. Those guys had a huge amount of stuff on Russia and a spy network already in existence. But what was their value - NONE. They had to create value else thrown to the wolves or simply put in prison to never be seen again. They created the 'cold' war to justify their existence. As the Jewish groups moved to find war criminals we (taxpayers) moved many of them to S America and hid them out. Yes; this is documented fact.

I have to agree with Bro William - from within is where the cancer grows. One looks back and wonders; how could it ever gotten so far askew. Can God? God can! Prayer is the only solution.

Samuel Pickens

NASA - huge money pit. First man in charge; Nazi.

The space shuttle is a third rate joke. We (AF) have been flying into outer space daily since 1973.

They spend more money trying to prove there is no God than supporting Russia's space program.

Isn't it a common saying in the US Military Marines - we've meet the enemy; it is us.
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