07-29-2010, 12:13 PM
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07-29-2010, 12:15 PM
(07-29-2010 12:13 PM)a pilgrim Wrote: [ -> ]Like this?
I can think of many Christians whose heads are that big, but they are not members of this little forum. Charity prevents me from naming names.
07-29-2010, 12:34 PM
Joel 2:23-32
23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first [month].
24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
27 And ye shall know that I [am] in the midst of Israel, and [that] I [am] the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
IMO we have the Spirit of God on the inside, that justifies us freely by grace.
The elect are the chosen people. either by Jewish ancestry, or by joining to it by compliance.
It bears out that NOW there is no Jew nor Gentile, male nor female..we do not have a concentrated anointing with all signs and wonders and miracles in operation.
This should tell us that the elect are reserved these manifestations, as Jesus and the Jewish Apostles were. I cannot believe that those given grace freely without works merit status as the elect as those who have to establish their own righteousness through faith and works in the tribulation do.
I respect all your thoughts, beliefs and opinions...call me a Hyper..whatever, but I believe progressive dispensationalists and replacement theology closely paralells belief that the church, the body of Christ are elect.
23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first [month].
24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil.
25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
27 And ye shall know that I [am] in the midst of Israel, and [that] I [am] the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
IMO we have the Spirit of God on the inside, that justifies us freely by grace.
The elect are the chosen people. either by Jewish ancestry, or by joining to it by compliance.
It bears out that NOW there is no Jew nor Gentile, male nor female..we do not have a concentrated anointing with all signs and wonders and miracles in operation.
This should tell us that the elect are reserved these manifestations, as Jesus and the Jewish Apostles were. I cannot believe that those given grace freely without works merit status as the elect as those who have to establish their own righteousness through faith and works in the tribulation do.
I respect all your thoughts, beliefs and opinions...call me a Hyper..whatever, but I believe progressive dispensationalists and replacement theology closely paralells belief that the church, the body of Christ are elect.
07-29-2010, 01:56 PM
(07-29-2010 12:34 PM)InnSpectre Wrote: [ -> ]IMO we have the Spirit of God on the inside, that justifies us freely by grace.
The elect are the chosen people. either by Jewish ancestry, or by joining to it by compliance.
It bears out that NOW there is no Jew nor Gentile, male nor female..we do not have a concentrated anointing with all signs and wonders and miracles in operation.
This should tell us that the elect are reserved these manifestations, as Jesus and the Jewish Apostles were. I cannot believe that those given grace freely without works merit status as the elect as those who have to establish their own righteousness through faith and works in the tribulation do.
I respect all your thoughts, beliefs and opinions...call me a Hyper..whatever, but I believe progressive dispensationalists and replacement theology closely paralells belief that the church, the body of Christ are elect.
I won't call you a Hyper. I respect your views, and believe that actual differences within this thread are more apparent than real. Without getting into Progressive Dispensationalism, however, I will state that "replacement theology" is (officially, at least) viewed in this forum as false doctrine. It doesn't rise (or descend) to the level of heresy, but it's not scriptural.
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