A thread to discuss Dr. Ruckman's book, "The Mark of the Beast".
Put in your questions, and others will try to answer! 
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page114 at the rapture a pool of blood where each living Christian had stood.
I thought maybe that was far fetched,why not just as part of our change our circulatory system changes back to how Adam and Eve's was before the fall.
what do you think?
page103 The problem for the Catholic,then,will be how to reinsert African jazz into worship services without offending the dignity and pomp of the fraudulent priests.
page104-110 .....I got lost.
(07-27-2010 05:08 AM)MrsHayseed Wrote: [ -> ]page114 at the rapture a pool of blood where each living Christian had stood.
I thought maybe that was far fetched,why not just as part of our change our circulatory system changes back to how Adam and Eve's was before the fall.
what do you think?
page103 The problem for the Catholic,then,will be how to reinsert African jazz into worship services without offending the dignity and pomp of the fraudulent priests.
page104-110 .....I got lost.
How was Adam and Eve's pre-fall circulatory system different from ours?
I'm at work, without the book to reference, and I hesitate to try to explain using my memory. William could do a much better job than I.
However, I'll take a stab at it:
I'm not sure whether or not the blood will be left behind at the rapture, but it make sense. Our blood is tainted, and it cannot be allowed in the presence of God. Therefore, Dr. Ruckman proposes (someone correct me here if I am mispeaking!) that when we are raptured, our blood will be left behind with our clothing.
Whether or not that will happen, it's not a salvation issue, nor does it contradict Scripture as far as I can see.
Regarding the circulatory system of Adam and Eve, it has been proposed that it was not blood as we know it, but water. Adam does not refer to Eve as having 'blood', but she is bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh.
I'll let someone else fill in the blanks or correct me if I have misquoted or misrepresented those concepts.
(07-27-2010 06:49 AM)CKG Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2010 05:08 AM)MrsHayseed Wrote: [ -> ]page114 at the rapture a pool of blood where each living Christian had stood.
I thought maybe that was far fetched,why not just as part of our change our circulatory system changes back to how Adam and Eve's was before the fall.
what do you think?
page103 The problem for the Catholic,then,will be how to reinsert African jazz into worship services without offending the dignity and pomp of the fraudulent priests.
page104-110 .....I got lost.
How was Adam and Eve's pre-fall circulatory system different from ours?
Before the fall, whatever fluid was in the circulatory system was how God wanted it to be in the first place. When man fell, we either got blood or the blood we had before became corrupt and tainted. The life of the flesh is in the blood, and we die because our blood is bad.
Dr. Ruckman teaches, from what I understand, that because it says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom..." we leave our blood behind.
Personally, I don't think that's what happens, the Bible says we're changed in a twinkling of an eye, and I think that goes for our entire bodies including our circulatory system.
(07-27-2010 09:39 AM)Rick Schworer Wrote: [ -> ]Before the fall, whatever fluid was in the circulatory system was how God wanted it to be in the first place. When man fell, we either got blood or the blood we had before became corrupt and tainted. The life of the flesh is in the blood, and we die because our blood is bad.
Dr. Ruckman teaches, from what I understand, that because it says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom..." we leave our blood behind.
Personally, I don't think that's what happens, the Bible says we're changed in a twinkling of an eye, and I think that goes for our entire bodies including our circulatory system.
I'm inclined to think it's our entire bodies that are completely changed, too. I've not read
The Mark of the Beast though.
I was under the impression there's no basic difference in Adam and Eve's "pre-fall" bodies and the one we have as far as type of body we have.
Paul tells us there are two types of bodies as far as we humans go.
"It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." (1 Corinthians 5:44)
Adam had a natural body.
"The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from Heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly." (1 Corinthians 15:47-49)
This would coincide with what we are told about Adam in Genesis 2.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. "(Genesis 2:7)
(07-27-2010 09:39 AM)Rick Schworer Wrote: [ -> ]Before the fall, whatever fluid was in the circulatory system was how God wanted it to be in the first place. When man fell, we either got blood or the blood we had before became corrupt and tainted. The life of the flesh is in the blood, and we die because our blood is bad.
Dr. Ruckman teaches, from what I understand, that because it says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom..." we leave our blood behind.
Personally, I don't think that's what happens, the Bible says we're changed in a twinkling of an eye, and I think that goes for our entire bodies including our circulatory system.
Yes and as for the same reasons HereAmI says Adam when he saw Eve said she was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh,not she is my flesh and blood relative.
(07-27-2010 12:11 PM)CKG Wrote: [ -> ]I was under the impression there's no basic difference in Adam and Eve's "pre-fall" bodies and the one we have as far as type of body we have.
Paul tells us there are two types of bodies as far as we humans go.
"It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." (1 Corinthians 5:44)
Adam had a natural body.
"The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from Heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly." (1 Corinthians 15:47-49)
This would coincide with what we are told about Adam in Genesis 2.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. "(Genesis 2:7)
Unlike Adam and Eve, our fallen and sin tainted bodies rot over time.
Just ask William, he's as old as dirt.
